Just talk. Get your better halves and get the fuck out of my house I sniped as I tipped my fedora and winked at my wifes hottest friend who was clearly impressed by my rage erection that had partially split the seam in my relaxed fit Levi 501s. Her friends have always been cool to me. Thank you for giving me my laugh for the day haha. BigbigbigBIIIIG yikes. I have one person I talk to sometimes about my gf. Another violation of your trust. Best thing to do is give it some time. Sorry if this is all over the place. Fourthly, buy that man a beer. If you find happiness, people may be jealous. Thank you. She doesnt respect you, man. This is what her and her friends did to you. Which is obviously shit because she's willing to throw you to the wolves, but not admit her fun time with you. Or so that she wont identify you? I don't have anything else to say about it besides the fact that we're both happy with our sex life.". I could not imagine this type of betrayal and I hope you can find peace. Because I think going three-for-three on instances of convenient bullshit is, well, bullshit. Id also like to see those fun-o-phobes pack their bags and get out of your wifes life. Good luck and I do feel for you. First of all, you're right to cool down before making decision on anything. Just as all good things come to an end, so too do all the bad things. The slider to the patio from the kitchen is open. Your wife outed you. I just chain smoked and clinched the steering wheel so hard I thought I was gonna break it. Why would she tell them that you enjoy pegging? When the bi thing slipped, she should have told you. Ugh. Once you have accepted what you can't change, then you can move forward, either using gratitude or optimism to recover & reframe the situation. "I overheard my wife talking to one of her best friends on the phone while I was passing the bedroom. I'm getting angry just sitting here cause I've personally witnessed this so many times. Girls can be katty and have fun taking diggs at each other (guys too but its a stereotypical thing with girls). I would keep notes about what's promised and then see what she manages to do about it going forward (should you decide to stay with her). If they outed me and mocked our sex life with their friends, I would never be able to be intimate with them again. I would divorce my husband if he let his friends make comments about my sexuality, and then proceeded to say he fantasized about other women during sex. She violated a boundary. A DAD whose wife and kids stopped talking to him because he was covered in tattoos says he has no regrets. Wouldnt your wifes friend be able to identify you anyway from the story? She sounds sorry and your marriage is great, so maybe dont listen too carefully to all the people telling you to get a divorce. Ask her about it, give her the space to openly address it and dually try and understand why she feels that way as well as highlighting why you two are together. He said if i wanna get together for a drink or whatever to let him know. If you love her and things work, then your answer is clear. Good move tossing them out and then leaving as well. I'd be more open about your sexuality; if you've nothing to hide then the nasty wives have nothing to attack. And without trust, you have nothing. If she can apologize for those things and really work on not doing them in the future, I think I'd forgive her. I am floored you are the only person who has pointed this out. I agree, marriage counseling ASAP. The fact she cares more about her homophobic friends opinions of her than her relationship with her partner says a lot. She was prepared to throw you under the bus and make you the butt of a joke just to impress her friends? No shit. I would just ask why her friends opinions matter more than yous twos intimacy. What she did is not a simple mistake. The guys almost definitely do not give a fuck. Therefore I would talk to her about her views on it and, if necessary, go to couples therapy on this. I could only imagine how crap you feel right now. Oh My God, seriously? Now this doesnt mean shes a 100% shit person. I don't know what I'd do. I dont air out our dirty laundry for anyone else to see, especially when it comes to sex. I hope you can work it out. I agree with the counseling. OP can do better than Tom. Its amazing where friendship comes from in the darkest of times. Im gonna get downvoted for this but I think you should hear it anyway OP. Third, it is really nobody's business if you are Bi, and nobody should care about it anyway. Whatre you guys laughing about? I ask with a smile playing stupid. You are going to have to shrug this off but your not overacting. Personal details should remain private. Idc who they are. If she does in fact really care about you - she will wait. also drunk talk often means honest thoughts of a person. 2) Your wife flat out lied about her grin and bear it attitude about your sex life regarding the "bi stuff" when she often initiates it. Also? When she answered I could tell shed been crying and was a wreck. Birds of a feather flock together. At a minimum she should have come clean about the bachelorette party thing the moment it happened. This will help no matter what you decide. You are both going to be have to go to couples therapy and individual therapy sessions. Do not let anybody minimize this either. Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough. See how it flushes out. As long as you are honest with yourself then it will all work out. Drunk or not, does not excuse their unwarranted behaviour. As a not entirely straight guy myself I would be pretty mortified to go through this. But 2 years later she is still talking about your most sacred aspect of your personal life, by filling in her friends on the most private part of your life. The simple fact of the matter is she shit talks you behind your back. Saying that it was simply too small. I would be trembling with furious anger and wouldn't be able to face her with the same amount of trust for a long, long while after this incident. Even if it was a close call, you dont say that. Not the rest of the world with their petty judgements. Definitely think about whether or not this is a dealbreaker. It sounds like shes remorseful. I keep my composure as best I can and open the slider to the patio and poke my head out. I feel for you and wish you the best. It takes a lot of trust and vulnerability to explore kinks with somebody. How unattractive I feel. Ban the girls from the house. What she did is disrespectful to you as her husband, to herself as your wife, disrespectful AF to your kids (because they will absolutely hear this rumorone day if you live in a small town) and in my opinion this is a divorce threshold. Finding this out, I personally dont know if I could get past it. You seem like you are happy in your relationship (prior to this obviously) and wanting to find a way to work through this and I feel like a lot of counseling is the only way it could possibly happen. If my wife did this, I doubt I'd ever care to be into intimate with her again. IN YOUR HOME. Your marriage is between the two of you. I have no advice but as a fellow bi, my condolences. I'm not sure how to help you, but your wife needs better friends. I knew I wasnt in a good state and ignored all of them. Idc about bros before hoes or chicks before dicks nonsense, when someone insults your partner behind their back its your responsibility to stand up for them, not agree with them and contribute to the drunk girl talk. Theres PLENTY of ways to do this in both confrontational and non-confrontational ways. All I know is I would never trust my wife ever again after something like this. Your partner in crime fucked up. Take your time, make sure you heal on your timeline not hers. She shouldn't be hiding things from you or telling people your personal stuff. One day he throws a temper tantrum, and instead of talking with me about his insecurities, he goes off and tells everyone about it. Its amazing where friendship comes from in the darkest of times. Is the point of using your throwaway so she doesnt see your other post history? She really messed this up, she's immature and worried about offending the wrong people. If you are kind, people may accuse you of ulterior motives. Try distancing yourselves from these particular friends / connections until self estern / acceptance issues are resolved. Thats her game, and I suggest therapy and also congratulate you, my dude, on taking it so calmly. The third, least savoury issue: She may still have hidden feelings for Tom. After a very long silence, she said, "I guess we'll see how it all comes out in the wash anyway." They went to bed soon after. She has been entertaining this for two years because she can't control her mouth when she's drinking. How I interpret she feels: she let slip in a drunken night that youre bi, she enjoys your sex life and when her friends made you the butt of the joke and were being judgmental about it, she felt ashamed, and in true weak fashion chose to join in vs stand up for you and herself. There was also probably some truth to her bedroom comments. Even if it is a stay vacation somewhere near your home. How much more reassurance do you need? Which means wherever you gothere will be a little voice in the back of your mind wondering if people are judging you or talking shit about you behind your back, I'm not sure how you move forward in this situation but I would suggest individual therapy and couples counseling.as well as asking her to put some distance between her and the people she ran her mouth to, I would suggest individual therapy and couples counseling.as well as asking her to put some distance between her and the people she ran her mouth to. Dude, I am so sorry. It was lovely that the mate called you and said what he did. I absolutely agree. I mean, what you probably should have done was just walk quietly back to the garage and talk about it in private with your wife later- like an adult. The text of the post has been preserved below. Good luck and I do feel for you. That was 100% a choice on her part. I had no privacy. Dont slide back to her. I agree with this comment as a bi person! Here are some of my favorite quotes (I collect them). But I also feel like it's a betrayal you can come back from. Exactly! I know that your * secret life * is very personal to you, but not many people will be concerned or even bothered about your sexuality. Possibly she has to talk to the friends and say that she loves her man, and she loves his kinks, and that she was only saying that stuff to gossip. People can be so two-faced with that kind of thing. As far as your confidence goes, why has that taken a hit? My late uncle had to watch his wife leave him on his sick bed because she couldn't bring herself so be seen that way, talking about "a whole me tending to a sick man, me I can't oh let his family do it ".. To me this is an unfortunate situation one you would never have known about but for some low key curious snooping and snooping isn't meant as you were being a sneaky individual just a situation happened and you were part off it. Also arrange some couple counseling and talk it all through. Yeah, I have a hunch that her apology is going to include counseling and new friends. THAT is a stand up friend. Those so called friends are not real friends. BS. Names have been changed. You heard the truth when she was talking to her friends, about your private life, without your knowledge. Sounds like she cares more about what her friends think than how you feel. Ive never felt this upset. Especially because the reason behind the "close call" was because OP is bi. She blamed drinking for outing you in the beginning and now shes blaming it again in this situation. But it does happen and people can surprise you. So my wife and one of her girlfriends were having a few glasses of wine, and while I was in my office I overheard a very awkward part of their conversation The other woman was complaining about her husband, quite openly, and specifically about the size of his penis. She chose to prioritize platonic bonds over her marriage and honestly just participated in casual homophobia at the expense of her husband. This isn't your fault. Don't rush the feels phase. She forced him out, and its time for her to join him. Frankly I would be more able to forgive infidelity than I would these kind of conversations. She was shitfaced when she admitted your sexuality, was pressured to mock your sexuality by her terrible friends, and she didn't actually mean to completely fucking demean you sexually. Their partners undoubtedly know about you. Things that concern only you two she turn into an open truth and open truths she kept from you. When the "friends" make their snide comments, she should be backing you up, not joining in. It's not a secret, kept in a fault. Sounds like there needs to be an understanding formed between you guys and what is appropriate conversation with friends. Im scrolling Reddit at night because its an escape from my own personal issues, so I might not be connecting some dots. I'm sorry. You feel emasculated about something that's a part of you because you hide it Weirdly plenty of women like men who like men too. Wife: " (my name) I dunno what your heard but it's not what" Me: " (wifes name) I know exactly what I heard." I turned around and stormed off to our room. It actually did make me feel a little better. That sucks that your wife has such closed minded friends. Only one thing to do in this situation. At the very least there's some trust work that will need to be done to rebuild some things. Oh come.A- at least. She also needs to put her friends in their place or look for better friends. P.O Box 30080-00100,Nairobi, Kenya. I have a key and texted her I needed to stay there for the night and she said of course without any questions asked. HER?! Or even a long drive. Now, this is fine! thats some foul behaviour. You're in the feels phase of this situation, not in the action phase yet. What else is she keeping from OP? Her voice was strained and raspy. Id almost go with divorce but with the kids, I sincerely hope counseling is able to help. She should have told you from the beginning that she let it slip and stood up for you to her friends. You should seek marriage counseling after this. At the end of the day, it is you who'll decide what makes you happy not them! We have been married for more than 10 years and have . You and your wife decided to marry each other. So (and this is where your perception of the relationship comes in) you have to determine whether she was going with the flow of the conversation or whether she does actually have an issue with that. Your story is isn't as violent, but its just as embarrassing and horrifying to hear. Firstly: Even though it may be difficult: try and see this as an opportunity to strengthen your relationship. She hurt you fucking badly. Not such perfect marriage after all. Your wife shouldnt have outed you to her friends. It takes a bigger person to take the high road, and most people are not. Best of luck with whatever you decide! I will say at least you dumped the shit on the table straight away and didn't try to eat it by yourself. Yeah, I'm a married woman. Its fucked up to add that to a conversation just to pile on and humiliate her own husband. This crap has been swimming around for TWO FUCKING YEARS. Right I mean she volunteered stuff when she could have kept her mouth shut. I understand you were angry and not thinking straight, but that is besides the point. So props to you. She broke your trust, plain and simple. The only talking I'd be doing at that point would be discussing how she wants to split custody. Dont just accept her apology and move on. The bottom pine is you're supposed to be able to confide in her about these things and she's mishandled your trust. She values her homophobic friends' opinions more than your feelings. Personally, I would consider this along the same lines of cheating in my relationship, because it's a complete breach of trust and security you're supposed to have with your partner. How would she feel, how would she react, etc. How disgusting can she be? But she enjoys to embarrass you to her friends behind your back about it. Same! Did she give me advice? Go for a hike, go to a movie, whatever. It's mainly drunk talk and a bit of peer pressure getting to your wife and she clearly regrets it We all make mistakes sometimes but this is how you grow as a couple! You deserve that. I don't think she is disinterested in the guy, but I will say I don't tolerate that kind of weakness. But then she says.the only hurdle I had to get past with (me) was.well, you guys know.they all were kinda like mhmm as if to affirm they knew what she was talking about. I mean the "I overheard my wife say something upsetting about me to her friends" genre is a little played out. Thats punishment enough for some. Ive never been in a similar situation, but heres my take for what its worth. she can claim she doesnt mean it all she wants but that will not change the fact she said it and then didnt defend you when things got ugly. Being a bi women in a straight committed relationship, I can connect with you in some sense because I do hear "you can't be bi, you're married to a man" or I had previous partners that were horribly insecure about my sexuality. No real worries there. Then one girl left and all of a sudden the other girl is giving pointers! I mean i think you can talk it out?? Take care of yourself, and good luck. Truly when you come to the realisation your partner has such a low view , I sympathise a lot with you dude. Hubby is under the bus & she's driving over him again & again unnecessarily! So will she keep acting to her friends like she has a problem with it? She basically said, well if you werent listening at the door you wouldnt be upset right now. At the beginning of the marriage endometriosis and disparei is, we spent almost an year without sex, I was always by her side, left the work early, never even thought about hookups or relief with other women. Look beyond her faux Pas and look at the positives and what you enjoy. How would she feel if she overheard this? But one thing I have realized is that you should be proud of who you are as a person, sexual preferences included. I was going to say something identical. Don't be embarrassed about any of that stuff, everyone knows now so just own it. I'm not saying she will, I don't know her and can't make that call. If you do want to try to stay with her then, at minimum, you need to insist on marriage counseling immediately and you also need to insist that she completely cut the two homophobic/judgmental friends out of her life. Emasculated. The Geni has escaped from the bottle, as there's no chance of putting it back in, you need to deal with the humiliation that you feel in how it was told. Personally I think you handled as well as could be expected - what with confronting the issue right away and pulling consequences for her violating your very personal boundary/secret. How horrible she is, violating you, your sex life, envisioning other people. You have a couple of children and a good life up until now. If my bf were you, I'd imagine he would do the same exact thing. You're married to the person who should MOST be on your side and she has completely betrayed you for a fucking laugh. It sounds like they were encouraging your wife and Tom to connect. 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